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    Team secondary vs. P-85

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    • Member since
      December, 2008
    Team secondary vs. P-85
    Posted by cool storm on Thursday, February 02, 2017 8:50 PM

    Does anyone that has used both have an opinion on the benefits, if any, of using a team over a P-85? I am a proficient wrench but never used a team clutch. The sled I just picked up had one on it, 2005 xc 600. I know the assembly is different my inquiry is aimed at setup and trade-off's if any. Thanks in advance for sharing your experience!

    • Member since
      November, 2005
    Posted by R+R racing on Sunday, February 05, 2017 3:08 PM

    i would stick with the p 85

    • Member since
      February, 2011
    Posted by UnknownPoo on Monday, February 06, 2017 9:07 AM
    Majority of the racers are button guys. My background is snocross so I'm hands down more experienced with Team. That old XC probably has Team TSS-98
    • Member since
      December, 2008
    Posted by cool storm on Monday, February 06, 2017 1:08 PM

    What I learned is that you have to use the encapsulated roller for reverse, as a standard p-85 will allow the belt to suck down. The one I have has a "427" or "447" on it and a helix angle of 56-48-36 er. I setup a standard p- 85 with a silver and 48-36 in it. 62's with 2 grams taken off the tip, tucked the weights to 4100, gearing at 23/40 and the sled loves the setup. But I don't know how to setup that team, the helix angles are huge and also the spring looks like a truck suspension spring, is there a conversion formula?

    • Member since
      February, 2011
    Posted by UnknownPoo on Wednesday, February 08, 2017 9:24 AM
    No real conversion. Your button setup is pretty much on the money with 12lbs on the secondary. To over come the Team spring pressure a larger helix is need. In Team world you would be in the 66-42 .46 zone with black red spring 155 /222. Understanding the team numbers gets most people confused. This helix will be progressive from 66-42 degrees the first .46" on the helix ramp then is a straight 42 the rest of the way.
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      November, 2005
    Posted by R+R racing on Thursday, February 09, 2017 6:30 AM

    have u  used a grey race at 20 lbs

    • Member since
      December, 2008
    Posted by cool storm on Sunday, February 12, 2017 6:53 AM

    Not yet, from what I can tell it is a lazy red color and it is very heavy looking wire from a p-85 standpoint. None of this really matters now anyway, based on the weather I think I need to work on my lawnmower soon! I think I will take all the parts and put 'em on the bench polisher. Then tell my wife I'm taking over a shelf in her curio cabinet for all my pretty pieces to be viewed because there is no damn snow!

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