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    XCR 700/800 water pump rebuild?

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      June, 2005
    XCR 700/800 water pump rebuild?
    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, October 07, 2005 3:33 PM

    I've got a 2000 XCR 800 that I was comtemplating on rebuilding the water pump on.  The mechanical seal is around $45 Cnd and the 2 bearings are $43 a piece!  That' doesn't include any gaskets if needed. 

    $43 a bearing?  That's crazy.  I remember someone here had rebuilt their waterpump and outsourced the bearings somewhere else and they were alot cheaper.  They even had part numbers for the bearings that matched the Polaris ones exactly.

    Does anyone have this information?

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      June, 2005
    Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, October 09, 2005 3:57 PM
    I AM SURE YOU CAN TAKE ANY BEARING AND MEASURE IT(IF IT DOESN'T HAVE A NUMBER ON IT) WITH A MIC AND OR A DIGITAL CALIPER..TAKE THE SPECS TO SOMEPLACE LIKE NAPA OR A BEARING HOUSE AND THEY CAN PROVIDE THE SAME BEARING USUALLY ALOT CHEAPER THAN ANY MANUFATURERS BEARING..SAME GOES FOR SEALS.SOMETIMES YOU CAN FIND THE SAME BEARING BUT MAYBE THE SEAL IS DIFFERENT FOR DIFFERENT APPS...SUCH AS HIGH HEAT ETC...
    JUST A THOUGHT.......
    KD Cool [H]

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    • From: Montreal Quebec
    Posted by Clayton on Monday, October 10, 2005 3:48 PM
    A good bearing shop can match that exact bearing, the code on the side are not only for dimensions they are also for heat ratings, RPM etc. Usually around $5-8. buy the mec. seal and gesket from the dealer.
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    • From: Upstate New York
    Posted by White Lightning on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 5:39 PM

    I know it sounds like crazy but waterpump is a crucical part of the motor. You would want to have a good bearings in it and have it last awhile. Dont put cheap bearings in it and have it go, whatever. Replacing couple of pennies is still far cry of rebuilding a motor. Anyone? WL.

     

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    Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 7:02 PM
    WHITE WHATEVER LIKE LIKE LIKE ...WHATS UP WITH THE SMUG ***..THEN YOU LOCK EVERYONE OUT TO REPLAY TO YOUR POST???  LIKE I E-MAILED YOU..NO ONE IS SUGGESTING FOR THE MAN TO USE JUNK...SO 'LIKE" COOL IT CLOWNY
    THANK YOU..I'M IN A BAD MOOD ANYHOWZip it! [:#]

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    • From: Upstate New York
    Posted by White Lightning on Wednesday, October 12, 2005 6:44 AM
    Fastrmk700 - what makes you think I was being a smug? I think you are overreacting and better take some "chill" pill. Next time you want to talk trash, think before you speak. Im not here to bash at anyone at anytime - its not my style. Lightning [li] WL.

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    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 12, 2005 7:26 AM
    HEY WL
    MY MISTAKE THEN,I MISTOOK U AS IMPLYING THAT WE WERE STEERING SIXPACK IN THE WONG DIRECTION IN REGARDS TO THE BEARINGS.I THINK HE WAS LOOKING FOR AN ALTERNATIVE TO THE HIGH PRICED POLARIS PACKAGED BEARINGS..I ASSUMED HE WOULD KNOW BETTER THAN TO GET AN INFERIOR BEARING FOR SOMETHING LIKE A WATER PUMP...LIKE I SAID..MY MISTAKE FOR SAYING SOMETHING SO RASH AND APPEARING TO BASH YOU..NOT MY INTENTION AT ALL...HEY..YA GOT ANY CHILL PILLS??  LOL  (THATS ONE THING I DON'T NEED)Left Hug [{]

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    • From: Upstate New York
    Posted by White Lightning on Wednesday, October 12, 2005 7:46 AM

    Thats ok - its cool but no, I dont have any of the "chill" pills - I need some to make it thru todays work. LOL. WL.  Lightning [li]

     

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    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 12, 2005 9:31 AM

    Thanks for the advice.  Make no mistake....If I can't match up the bearings exactly then I will spend the money.  I've already had one go on our big bore 700.   Had to replace it with a used one since the existing one was totally unsalvageable.  Now the used one I replaced it with is leaking!  

    Just seems a little "pricey".    My xcr 800 has around 3200 miles.   Not sure if I should give it another season before pulling the pump or just rebuilt it now for some piece of mind? 

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      August, 2005
    • From: mississauga canada
    Posted by 2002 xcr on Wednesday, October 12, 2005 4:19 PM

    Some 2000 seem prone to impeller failure my 2000 had 7800 miles no problem have 2002 8600 miles ok but will have bearings & impeller changed this season

    tripels still rule the lake
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      June, 2005
    Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, October 27, 2005 5:08 AM

     I'll check my note in the shop. They are a standard bearing. You can see it once apart, Yeah found the same, $40 cdn a piece, and 6.95 for the same bearing from a bearing supplier.

    Only one bearing was getting crusty, I'd do it because of age as oppose to milege. One is a blind hole , let the dealr pull it. Watch the seal, it's a pain.

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    • From: Montreal Quebec
    Posted by Clayton on Thursday, October 27, 2005 5:46 AM
    NTN bearings 6001 LU and 6002 LU -- available from any good bearing supplier.
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    Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, November 16, 2005 1:18 PM

    Whats are the signs of failing water pump? Just curious... Dripping fluid, whining sound, loose shaft (if noticed during inspection).

    Thanks for any input.

     

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      June, 2005
    Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 18, 2005 10:39 PM

    If you see ANY fluid leaking from the little sipe hole, in the casting of the pump....you are living on borrowed time.  That usually means that the bearings are turning in antifreeze.  If the sled has lots of miles, I would rebuild it before you have trouble.  When they break, it is too late.  If you break the drive gear and impeller shaft, you are looking at a new pump because those parts alone are worth almost as much as a complete new one.  A complete new pump is around $400-$500 Cnd.  Polaris bearings are about $43 dollars each and the mechanical seal is another $45. 

    I have 3200 miles on my XCR 800 and depending on how many miles I put on my sled this year, I will be rebuilding the water pump next season regardless.

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