Snowmobile Racing

Clark Racing:

will there be a prostock 700 and prostock 600 class??

so we know if we should make the trip

PLEASE PASS THE WORD GUYS ABOUT HOTELS BOOK THEM NOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THERE IS A TON OF THINGS GOING ON IN THE IMMEDIATE PORT HURON AREA THE SAME WEEKEND AT THIS POINT WE CAN NOT SAVE THEM FOR ANYONE BECAUSE OF THE DEMAND NEXT YEAR I WILL HAVE A HOST HOTEL SIGNED ON EARLY ON!!!! I HOPE EVERYONE WILL BE ACCOMIDATED PLEASE EVERYONE SPREAD THE WORD TO YOUR BUDDIES WHO MAY NOT READ IN THIS FORUM. 

THE EASIEST WAY TO FIND A ROOM IS CALL THIS # 810 810 987-8687 & ASK FOR MARCY FOGAL, SHE HAS A COMPLETE LIST ROOMS WITHIN 15 MILES.

 ANY PLACE IN MARYSVILLE,ST. CLAIR, KIMBALL TWP.,&  IS PRETTY CLOSE.(ALLUNDER 15 MILES) FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DONT KNOW THE AREA I WILL HAVE A PACKET OR SHEET MADE UP FOR AS MANY PEOPLE NEED FOR REAL GOOD PLACES TO EAT & MOST IMPORTANT PLACES THAT ARE HELPING US WITH THE RACE!!  MILITARY STREET MUSIC CAFE IS ONLY 2 BLOCKS FROM THE RACE THEY WERE ALSO A GOOD SPONSOR OUR 1ST RACE LAST YEAR!! PLEASE FREQUENT THERE

I DO HAVE A COUPLE ROOMS RESERVED AT THE THOMAS EDISON INN THE ONLY PROBLEM IS THE COST IS ONE OF THE HIGHER END (APPROX. $150.00 & $175 PER NIGHT) BECAUSE THEY ONLY HAVE THE LARGER SUITES AVAILABLE IF ANYONE GETS IN A PINCH CALL ME & I WILL DO MY BEST FOR YOU

TIM AINSWORTH

810 650-3059  

F7MATT AGAIN IM SORRY FOR BEING CRAPPY WITH YOU SOME DAYS GO A LOT BETTER THAN OTHERS DOING THIS!! I HOPE FOR NO HARD FEELINGS

 SINCERELY

TIM AINSWORTH

I can't wait Tim...Two sled's and the quad...

HOPPER REMINDS ME OF ANOTHER THING!!

CALL AHEAD IF YOU WANT NOS FILLS ...I HAVE A FILL STATION BUT I MAY WANT TO GET A COUPLE 60LB BOTTLES IF THERE ARE ALOT OF BOTTLE BABIES COMING!!!

TIM AINSWORTH

810 650-3059

CANT WAIT TO SEE THAT QUAD FLY!!!

TIM

Thanx,not on the bottle YET!!!!!I'll tell the crew and let cha know Tim thanx!!If you need to holler at me or wondering anything feel free to call me..586-382-3878 Hopper

Clark Racing:

Clark Racing:

will there be a prostock 700 and prostock 600 class??

so we know if we should make the trip

steve, what Im getting out of things is, there racesled class is prostocks/openmods and anything that is a full race sled and there will be no  min weight......I dont know why they wont just say that? but they keep saying "outlaw race's" witch I take to mean run what you brung. they will just split you up by your cc's

please let me know if Im wrong. tom 

Hello Tom & Clarky we are looking at some way to keep the classes to 12 or so we are looking at weither we need to separate the cc sleds by weights or just run them by there cc.

Let us know what you all think we should do.

Kris Bedard-519-630-8393

set the weight @ 550 then prostocks should be able to get down to that weight and open's can add.....seam's fair to me. thanks tom

yeah something like what Tom said...so i may have to bring another driver...can Todd ride 2 sleds at once..lol

JUST A NEAT FYI FOR ALL WHO READ

FACTS ABOUT THE BRUTAL STRENGTH OF ICE

2" OF ICE WILL SUPPORT ONE MAN

4" OF ICE WILL SUPPORT ONE MAN ON A SNOWMOBILE (EVEN AN RX-1)

6" WILL SUPPORT A GROUP OF 12 PEOPLE  (MAYBE A FEW ASIANS)

8" WILL HOLD 2 TON IN A 10' SQUARE AREA

10" WILL HOLD 1000LBS PER SQUARE FOOT

15"10 TON

20" 25 TON

30" 70 TON

ENJOY YOUR WEEK ALL SEE YOU AN THE MAN MADE 1800 FOOT ICE TRACK IN PORT HURON IN 2 WEEKS!!!

THE BLACK RIVER SHOULD BE THICK ENOUGH TO RIDE ALL THE WAY DOWN TOWN ON THE RIVER FROM EITHER BOAT RAMP I ALSO HAVE PERMISSION TO MAKE A RAMP IF TIME ALLOWS FOR SNOWMOBILERS TO ACCESS RACES FROM THE RIVER ITS ONLY 2 BLOCKS AWAY

THE ICE IS REALLY ROCKIN I AM GOING TO JUST KEEP BUILDING UP THE LAYERS THIS WEEK!!

TIM AINSWORTH

810 650-3059

 Hi Tim... how long is your track with shut down.. I was told 1200 feet if thats true that is not long enough for our sleds, let me know so I can decide if we will come.. our sleds need at least 1800 to 2000 and that is tight..

Jim the track is 1800 know. I step it off myself at 600 steps that means 1800 at least as usually I am light on the measurement. That was a misprint by Tim. I have stepped it off 3 times. Then.Today  I am going to meet Tim and going to Layout a 40ft wide plus another 200ft just in case Route. I am Leaving for Gaylord this morning to make Ice all week with Cory. This track without the extra Shutdown is exactly the same lenght as last years track in Gaylord. If I would have stepped it off any less then I would of made it a 500 ft race.

Kris Bedard

onabender:

JUST A NEAT FYI FOR ALL WHO READ

FACTS ABOUT THE BRUTAL STRENGTH OF ICE

2" OF ICE WILL SUPPORT ONE MAN

4" OF ICE WILL SUPPORT ONE MAN ON A SNOWMOBILE (EVEN AN RX-1)

6" WILL SUPPORT A GROUP OF 12 PEOPLE  (MAYBE A FEW ASIANS)

8" WILL HOLD 2 TON IN A 10' SQUARE AREA

10" WILL HOLD 1000LBS PER SQUARE FOOT

15"10 TON

20" 25 TON

30" 70 TON

 

Thats good info . I had the same stuff except how many Sq ft it all calibrated out to.

Maybe somebody can answer/guesstimate this. 

How much additional ice do you make per day when its under a foot of snow.

We had a good solid 8"of ice before the 1 ft snow hit about a week ago & another 4" of snow  on the way by Wednesday. The weather report has been cold since this snow hit & is nothing but continued cold as far out as they project.  We won't even attempt to plow before this weekend. So what I'm trying to calculate is how thick the ice should be if it was 8"  & now 10 days later with over a foot of snow on top the new reasonable # is ???

Thanks,

MMR 

 You need to get the snow off the ice as soon as possible ...

We have some of the best ice temps coming all through MI.    Wed. through at least Sun.

Exposed Ice without windchill factor @ 10degrees F. or below will produce 1" of ice to the bottom of existing ice every day.

1foot of snow will not allow much additional freezing at all, it acts as an insulator.

Tim Ainsworth 

 Tim, is there somewhere on the internet you got this info ? Our usual plow guy moved and although we now have two plow trucks now instead of one,  our experienced lake ice expert is gone. MMR

Googled the address ... think I know where the races would be, but need clarification.  On dry land or over water??

Denso:

Googled the address ... think I know where the races would be, but need clarification.  On dry land or over water??

On Land.

Craig, try this Ice Engineering by the US Army Corps of Engineers document.  Here is the link.

http://www.crrel.usace.army.mil/ierd/tectran/ieieb13.pdf

A lot of the document is very technical, but provides reliable information.  There is a good table on page 3 "Minimum Thickness of Ice to Support a Load".  Table 1 gives a guideline for the amount of area to clear to support the expected load for the event based on ice thickness. 

It is important to pay particular attention to the type of ice that is under the snow.  If nothing else as much of the snow should be removed as possible.....move it to land if possible.  The weight factor of the snow plays a significant role in the condition of the ice under it and is often forgotten when weight for safe ice is calculated. 

Snow is an insulator, that is why the eskimos used to use for their igloos.....whatever ice is under the snow is preserved and new, better ice is slow to form.  Ice formation requires surface contact with the atmosphere, snow is a barrier to that formation.

Good luck.

Dave & Michelle - D&S Racing Team

Hi just curious. I got a 2002 xc 800 edge with a mbrp trail can on it. Is that considered stock or not? Might wana race but if its not stock its not worth it for me.