Snowmobile Racing

read the post I said that in Stock form u are allowed to change fuel and timing.  And to my understanding that is all a race ECU does.  I am going to try to make my stock 06 ECU act the same way with a boondocker and timing key

dude22:

 by the looks of what you post your not sure of much of anything!!!!!!

As far as the cc thing goes just ask the deeder monster.  He is still trying to beat a little 800 prostocker on ice with a 1200 prostocker.  Its not all about cc's

FORMULAIII:

I think the point that is getting missed is that the races at Togg have always been FUNdraisers . Be it for the trail club or this time for breast cancer . Jerry does an awesome job with the races and gives everyone a great day of racing or spectating . Fundraisers aren't meant for someone to come home with a ton of money . Actually , in the past there was no payout . Just for fun . This race needs to be taken for what it is . A glorified backyard race . No lights , minimal tech , somewhat honor system for fun . I am not trying to take anything away form Jerry or Togg as they have done a great job with these races and should be commended for a job well done . It is what it is . Watching from the BOTTOM of the looked like some close calls , but if you're not at the top ya can't call it . People are going to be called cheaters no matter where or what you race and no matter what the tech involved is . I think if anyone has a complaint about an event such as this , then maybe they should stick with sanctioned racing . No one cheats or is given favoritism there as we all see by reading the posts after any of the sanctioned events . LOL Not to make excuses or say he should have been allowed to run if he broke any rules (which I don't know if he did) but Rich Daly puts money out of his pocket into almost every snowmobile race out there . Not to say he should be given any favoritism for this but he loves the sport . (I missed his dance so I can't comment on that ) I just want to thank Jerry and Togg for another great day of racing .

Just my 2 cents   Steve Lupinski

 i beleave the rumor has it that deeder is king of the lake this year.... did not here nothing on no 800 in there

stevo108:

 i beleave the rumor has it that deeder is king of the lake this year.... did not here nothing on no 800 in there

Wiser, cool vids thanks for posting

jambo,it shouldnt take very long for you to show what your good at ,cause im sure its not much!!!!

NOS42:

stevo108:

 i beleave the rumor has it that deeder is king of the lake this year.... did not here nothing on no 800 in there

wrong, you dont get out much

 

Wiser, cool vids thanks for posting

WOW!!!!!  Who ever started this post should have the sportsmanship to change the title. A club puts on a race for a good cause has a decent payout would need an ARMY of tech inspectors to control you cheaters & cherry pickers you know who you are. Plus some OHSA inspectors for the morons heating nitrous bottles with a torch ( you could kill  bystanders). Jerry I apologize for being late, never talked to you about the fact I might be late. At 58 yrs old working to 1 every morning to build a ck-3 1000 with a xp skid in 1 wk I would have been ok until I checked the net Fri & realized you were starting at 1 instead of 5, I instantly called Kirsch & told him to sign me up if he could. Brother Mike was coming to my shop at 8 Sat morning to help but do to your big turnout he had to go help with inspection. (thanks Mike but you did the right thing in the bigger picture) The problem was Kirsch was working at Koz's & Koz figured if he was going to be their at noon for the sandbox so should Richie. Plus I had to make 5 phone calls Sat morning to different motorcycle racing buddies & Ken Westfall who I had told during the week that the race started at night. The ironic thing is with the hill being tough & challenging, I elected on my own not to run the big one due to the bumps. So being a racer & exhausted when I got there I was furious with the controversy Koz has started ( I don't get it you use my radar gun to test & you whine to everyone to try & prevent me from signing up)  The dance, did I dance I know I was jumping up & down & cheering when Deeder the all motor man was making rounds. I loved it when I thought the turbo blew, hasn't anyone watched pinks. By the way being a racer I could have had lone run but I told your guy no why hold the show, OOPS, John put that big Polaris in the other lane & what a race we had he just nipped me at the line. The other reason I was cheering Deeder on was at the last he came over & discussed the fact he had put a stock suspension on instead of the Pro Line. I told him with the bumps its to dangerous & you will definitely run faster even with the extra weight.Plus he has won several times which is very tough to do. I do need to address the big bore issue, I have stock cylinders ported, like i've been saying since the shootout if you big bore an xp you are an IDIOT, The Cat guys its a diff story they make more power & can cheat if not teched. One last thing in 03 I won King of the Hill  on a 121 rev against a 1000 Cat. I said I would not go back because it wasn't fair the farmers riding in. I came back this year because of the Pro classes. So along with more rules next yr. Please keep the pros out of stock & stock mod & pump gas. & mouse grow up come race that silver bullet with Grampa. One last thing I left Togg made the long haul to Plattekill, had a great time won some classes set the track record, 5.6 or 5.8   500 ft up hill bump & loose snow had the field covered but young Gregory treed me for King of the Hill oh & whinners no money but well worth the drive. Only 2 other racers from Togg. So Jerry no need to call me I will be back & thanks to your crew I've had a lot of fun racing with you guys & winning King of the Hill on an 800 is special to me & very proffesional cup trophy.

Rich Daly

YAWN! MUst be you already know what I can do because you have lost focus about this post. I nice knowing that there is someone out there who pays so much attention to me.

Jamie Pardee

dude22:

jambo,it shouldnt take very long for you to show what your good at ,cause im sure its not much!!!!

all i did was write my opinion  on what i thought was some bad calls at the top of the hill and state that eveyone should have to follow the rules the race directors put in place. and everyone starts firing away because they forget were not under stalin and hitlers dictatorship and we are allowed to voice are opinion in this country!!!! then jampar starts talking about my screen name and how fast he is against deeder!!!!! god only knows what any of that has to do with anything!!!!!!

General Observations:

1.) If Jerry had another race tomorrow, 99% would be back.

2.) Any OLLC authorized function that doesnt include copious amounts of alcohol afterwards or beforehand, results in this continual bickering.

3.) The time to complain is THEN, not now. That way, if its legit, its done.

4.) Rich is sometimes ummm  "eccentric".... You may THINK he is dancing, but its really a reaction to eating poached salmon 7 days a week to stay under 99 pounds. Look what Salmon do, going upriver.  Thats what makes Rich, welll, umm Rich. LOL

5.) Rich will ALWAYS be late. His mom was 6 weeks overdue with him. He was 9 before he went to preschool.  OK, actually in his defense, running 2 businesses is a daunting task. Trying to stay ahead of the curve (Performance wise) is even tougher.  I give him credit for even attending. And the cash he puts into the sled community is second to none. 

6.) This was a FUNDRAISER. Actually, there shouldnt even BE a payout. 

7.) ESTA opens in 20 days. So in less than 3 weeks, you can get out there and see what kind of tuner you really are.

wiser 41 ski doo:

This is y racing is going to all outlaw

SEE MATT, SWAIN LAST YEAR WAS NOT THAT BAD !!! rotflmao. 3:16 (yammie tony)

its over ?       as the tog turns ?   the star of the show can finaly get out of bed and shower off the bengay and post on here , and its over ?      dannggggggggggggggggg

less than three weeks doc    id better work on it today

to all you am snow internet cit-com actors and actressess ,  the royaly cks are in the mail

So if my cousin Billy Ray showed up 6 hours late because he had to wake up at 2:30 AM to milk cows then load the @%#* spreader to get the fields done or his father would of beat his *** and used his tough life as a reason for being late he would be gettin the same treatment?  I doubt he would of backed his 84' F-150 up to the track and unloaded his manuer covered sled and run the race without any problem.  Deadlines and rules apply to everyone and if they are going to be bent they should be bent for everyone equally not just for people with pocket loads of money or a name that everyone has heard of. If your going constantly bend them then why have rules at all?  I didnt go because of all this *** that seems to be part of too many events no matter where they are. 

a little x-tra something will be in your royalty ck dave ,     

JERRY NO NEED TO APOLOGIZE GREAT  F`N JOB TO YOU AND YOUR CREW. AS FAR AS RICH DALEY GREAT JOB U KICK `D *** NO MATTER WHAT TIME U GOT THERE. AND FOR ALL RICH RUNS IN ALL THE CLASSES AGINST US!!!!!!     SO NO  FAVORTISIM  HE BEAT US FAIR AND SQUARE.   AND FINALLY   CONGRATS TO ALL NOT JUST THE WINNERS WE ALL ONE!!!!!!!!!!    FOR SUPPORTING A GREAT CAUSE I THINK WE ARE FORGETTING THAT..

                                                            WAK PAK RACING

Everyone has said there peace on this post and Jerry said he will personally handle the issues, so we should all give him the chance to make everything right and thank him for putting on a huge event.  THANKS JERRY     

                                                                                         Vince Musolino