Snowmobile Racing

Where can you look up world records for drag races or any type of snowmobile racing? I tried Guiness but couldn't find anything?

We all keep our own secret set of records.  I, personally, have 14 world records. 

Actually, I'm not sure if there is an "official" set of records.  Each organization may have their own record holders per class.  Not exactly sure.

Lol... yeah I have a couple too, but I was watching my Top Gun Shoot out dvd and kris was saying that this was a world record pass and  or he would have to check, so I was wondering if it does go somewhere or is it just up to the individual to say "I have a world record" ?  if it was listed some place ..I would know what I have to shoot for

Thats why we need Ben MacDonald back.You can thank the A-Holes at the border.I wonder how much drugs and mexicans slipped in while they were picking on a snowmobile photogrofer and his book of North American Records.I wonder how much safer America is without him in the country?

   Ben did more for racing that he ever got out of it, he should be missed by everyone, even those who didn't know him.

Mutty

would be good to know because i dont think that broke the record i think it still stands with marchbank...

Last I knew the 500' grass drag time and speed record is in Hastings Mi. set by Ons Stop Performance 3.89 @ 136mph. set on Saturday October 11 2008 the driver was Bret Huff He weighed 163 pounds there was no tail wind, the sun was out, with 45 grains of water in the air, the altitude was 935' and after the run all the HOTTER girls said thats the man for me. Well thats what I herd

Jimmy McHugh YZRP.com

Yeah I'm not real sure of what the record is for 800 imp. but I thought it was 498 (Marchbank or Hauck) and that Kaz got it now at 497 in Syracuse. if it's not a world record, it is a very good run, hats off to him.

It would be nice to have a place that has all the snowmobile world records for all classes so they can be acknowledged. If it is a world record pass, the sled should be checked over and put in the books.

AMSNOW should have a spot on this site with the records

We can establish records for the classes that get run at the amsnow shootout and keep track of them.

Maybe Milan, AMA, NSDRA and NSA can be considered for the particular classes that get run at those events.

Dr.Crank:

AMSNOW should have a spot on this site with the records

   Great idea, but are they too busy vacationing? Amsnow dedication to reporting on drag racing seems suspect to say the least. 10,000 hit threads in the summer seem unimportant to amsnow, don't they? Time will tell, maybe someone with the right relationship with them should shake, or wake them up.

Mutty

Jamie Bellman:

We can establish records for the classes that get run at the amsnow shootout and keep track of them.

Maybe Milan, AMA, NSDRA and NSA can be considered for the particular classes that get run at those events.

   So these would be event or track records, not world records, right? What about world records. Are all the timing systems set up the same, as far as rollout and sensor height? We all know how important that is when recording et's. I see some grass races use compulink timing systems, others use portatreee, and some use custom systems. Are the sensor heights and rollout the same on all of them?

Mutty

Muttyz:

Jamie Bellman:

We can establish records for the classes that get run at the amsnow shootout and keep track of them.

Maybe Milan, AMA, NSDRA and NSA can be considered for the particular classes that get run at those events.

   So these would be event or track records, not world records, right? What about world records. Are all the timing systems set up the same, as far as rollout and sensor height? We all know how important that is when recording et's. I see some grass races use compulink timing systems, others use portatreee, and some use custom systems. Are the sensor heights and rollout the same on all of them?

 

Mutty

Yeah that is a good point, I'm not sure how it can be done. I would guess, along with the record it should show, Location,date,timing system. it couldn't be done by just someone at home. I was looking at some videos on utube and a guy had a system set up for testing and before he would make a pass he would check where the sensor was then back the sled up big time like 2'.

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machz69x:

Muttyz:

Jamie Bellman:

We can establish records for the classes that get run at the amsnow shootout and keep track of them.

Maybe Milan, AMA, NSDRA and NSA can be considered for the particular classes that get run at those events.

   So these would be event or track records, not world records, right? What about world records. Are all the timing systems set up the same, as far as rollout and sensor height? We all know how important that is when recording et's. I see some grass races use compulink timing systems, others use portatreee, and some use custom systems. Are the sensor heights and rollout the same on all of them?

 

Mutty

Yeah that is a good point, I'm not sure how it can be done. I would guess, along with the record it should show, Location,date,timing system. it couldn't be done by just someone at home. I was looking at some videos on utube and a guy had a system set up for testing and before he would make a pass he would check where the sensor was then back the sled up big time like 2'.

Typically, at a reputable, permanent race facility like Martin, or ESTA or Milan or wherever, it's hard to manipulate the lights without altering the physical rollout of the vehicle.  The standard for snowmobiles is 21" and that is pretty easy to check.  Obviously, I'm referring to asphalt racing only.  Not sure how to police it on the dirt.

When we race with COSDRA we always run faster on their timers versus NSRA'S. With my experiences I guess it would be pretty hard to have a completely legitimate record book for grass. Numbers are great but totals win races. If you would include totals and sanctioning body you might have something that is half way legitimate. Some systems don't even require you to be staged, while you can trick others by the postition in which you stage in relation to ski lift which really gives you more roll out. Each sanctioning body also run their timers at different heights (sometimes lane to lane) which also gives different variables from one sled model to the other. In the end good luck trying to bring enough consistency to even consider calling these times records although I will say it might be one heck of a good pass.

    Can anyone confirm if portatree and compulink timing systems are set up at the same sensor heights and rollouts?

   Just because your et's were quicker at COSDA races, doesn't nescesarily mean it was the timing system (although it could be), maybe it was track conditions or maybe you were in Syracuse at 400ft elevation instead of nosebleed elevations at some other race??

   I've had a popular Brower Wireless Timing System for over 15 years for testing, one day I went to the lake, and someone else was set up and testing with a Brower, so I turned on my hand held and found out mine read consistently 1 1/2 tenths slower than his, both of us using the same set of sensors! I came home and figured out that as the handheld's battery gets weaker, the recorded et's get slower, after chasing my tail for 15 years! Thanks Brower, they deny it, but I can prove it. Just a tip to keep you from chasing your tail too.

Mutty

GrassCat31:

 

I'll measure NSRA's this weekend. I know conditions affect ET's but as I said we ALWAYS run faster on the Compulink system. Maybe the tracks are shorter. haha  I had too.

   Shorter, Ha Ha.That was the age old accusation of the Fenwick race, whether or not it was 500 ft. After losing the brakes in our Open Mod 1000 there in the early days of the event in the 90's due to a spun driveshaft in the plastic drive cogs, I no longer wanted it to be 500ft anyways, so thanks. You wouldn't believe how quickly that Bean Field stops you, it took 2 wheelers to dislodge the mod sled from the compiled bean plants! And to think NHRA National Tracks need a new $500,000 Pea-Gravel-water-multi net trap after Scott Kallitta unfortunate fatal accident at E-Town!

   Given a consistent sled & track condition with a N/A engine, ELEVATION means way more to performance than anything else that you can't control, as you already know I'm sure. What were the et's and elevation differences at your Portatree vs. Compulink experiences? Rollout and sensor heights only affect the et by swapping some reaction time for 60ft time (thus lowering overall et), wheras the split time and mph should be the same. If the split times and mph were better at a COSDRA race, you were putting more power to the track! A timing system could be sustect if the only gains were in 60ft, although track conditions and clutch heat, etc. can easily make that difference too. Give us the numbers........

Mutty