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Jamie Bellman
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07-27-2005
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This past weekend, we had some issues with our TRA II primary clutches on the 1500 asphalt sled. We managed to break two of the moveable sheaves.
I am aware of the "race dept." clutches, which are forged. They are tougher, but the tolerances are different and do not respond quite as well to our application. Plus, those parts are all obsolete / replaced with newer versions.
My question is: Is there any interest in a precision billet TRA 2 style primary ? Completely interchangeable with all OEM parts.Would include the fixed half and the moveable half. Use your gov cup, spring cup cover, hardware, etc.
I think we could get these in hand for around $ 900
Any input ?
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King Motorsports
Joined on
07-27-2005
ONEIDA LAKE, NEW YORK
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I gotta believe you'd sell a bunch of them. At that price especially. Lot's of fast sleds out there still running a TRA. Lanny, the Oliver Brothers, the Big D and Fish show.
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Iceman 700
Joined on
10-20-2005
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I know that a people capable of making them have talked about producing and they have never come through. Patent issue? I would really like a couple, I know a few racers in Norway and Sweden that would buy them. I cant speak for Lanny, but I am sure he and his crew would use them.
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Jamie Bellman
Joined on
07-27-2005
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Ya, I've heard of all the different ones "coming", but nothing.
It's a very difficult part to make, requires 3d digitizing and modeling. i.e. first one is very costly.
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rotax1025
Joined on
07-28-2005
MA
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most of us use the older tra(98 mach z )style,i'll take one of those
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Pro4
Joined on
08-24-2005
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I have looked into building these, believe me 900 bucks would be a bargain! Alot of machining there.....
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779
Joined on
07-28-2005
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i will take 3 at 900 keep us posted
rotax power
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FISH442
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02-25-2008
Syracuse, Indiana
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Anyone?? I was voted in for two on the 15's
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Jamie Bellman
Joined on
07-27-2005
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First 10 ordered today.
modeling and tool path is EXPENSIVE.
If you want one of the first 10, please email me.
busa747@yahoo.com
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Jamie Bellman
Joined on
07-27-2005
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The first one will be done next week.
Very excited about these. I had no idea how "out of whack" the parts were that we've been using. So far, price is staying below $ 1000
There are a couple of the first run not yet spoken for.
If you are interested in one of these, please email me ----> jamie.bellman@bellmanoil.com
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FISH442
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02-25-2008
Syracuse, Indiana
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The "Tar Biscuit", the "Mystery Machine", or the "Rinker Rocket"? What 15 is getting tested first??????
8.16 159 m.p.h. @740 lbs. Thank You Jamie Bellman Racing and Big Don Racing 2-Stroke Nauturally Aspirated!
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skidoochris
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10-08-2006
davison.Mi
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dont the tra 2's have the small shafts
I have twisted off a couple at the spline
havent you ever twisted one off
the newer tra's have a much bigger shaft
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Jamie Bellman
Joined on
07-27-2005
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I have not ever twisted one of these shafts, but I've only ran around 320 hp.
Not sure on the differences in dimensions between these and the newer stuff. I do know these work pretty well drag racing and I do not like the press together clutches. (like the TRA 5)
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champ27
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11-06-2009
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Are these clutches with the old style 1:10 30 mm taper or the new .75:1 taper?
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Jamie Bellman
Joined on
07-27-2005
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I don't know the technical terms on the tapers.
Most will be for the 3 cylinder 809 tapers and a few will be the smaller tapers (like the 583 twin).
Hope that makes sense ?
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Iceman 700
Joined on
10-20-2005
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They would be the 1:10 30mm taper. I would like at least one, and as soon as I talk to the boys over seas maybe a few more.
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z1000
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04-09-2007
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Jamie, I am in for one also.
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fastsled
Joined on
07-27-2005
BOSTON ,MASS
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jamie, will pass on info to the boys around here... if we still ran doo would take one TQ
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onebad800
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07-28-2005
Shelby twp. , MI
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Jamie Bellman:
Ya, I've heard of all the different ones "coming", but nothing.
It's a very difficult part to make, requires 3d digitizing and modeling. i.e. first one is very costly.
You know a very good 3D designer , I have Catia V5 at home (not upand running yet). a clutch would be cake but I need to make sure my3D solid modeling program will work. If I was still at work it would be nothing to do. Heck I did a complete 1000 cylinder ready to send to the prototype shop. My hourly rate wouldn't hit you toooo bad
#327
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Jamie Bellman
Joined on
07-27-2005
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We're using solid works for this one. Didn't realize that is what you did Frank. That is some cool stuff for sure.
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